Bridget Tobin Ryan (1818-1873) of Co. Kilkenny, Ireland: Records Possibly Pointing to Her Family Members

Tithe Applotment listing for Edd Tobin, Deerpark townland, Rossinan civil parish, County Kilkenny, 1833

Or, Subtitled: In the Absence of Records Necessary to Prove Genealogical Connections, One Goes A-Fishing

In a previous posting, I explained my reasons for concluding that my ancestor Bridget Tobin, who was born in 1818 in County Kilkenny, Ireland, and who married Valentine Ryan, son of John Ryan and Margaret Oates, in Kilmacow parish on 20 January 1833, perhaps had a sister Catherine who married John Walsh in the same parish on 20 January 1833. The same posting notes that Daniel Tobin married Bridget Walsh in Kilmacow parish on 12 February 1832. My posting asks if it’s possible that Daniel Tobin is another sibling of Bridget Tobin Ryan. I also noted that Edmond Tobin married Mary Comerford in Templeorum parish on 23 July 1839, with the marriage record stating that the couple lived at Buckstown. That would place Daniel in the same area as Bridget, Catherine, and Daniel, and would point to the possibility that he could be another sibling of Bridget.

John Ryan (Bef. 1785) and Wife Margaret Oates of Piltown, Co. Kilkenny, Ireland: New Information

Engraving of Bessborough House, County Kilkenny, Ireland, from John Preston Neale, Views of the Seats of Noblemen and Gentlemen in England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland , vol. 2 (London : Sherwood, Neely, and Jones, 1820), p. 273

Or, Subtitled: Papers of Landed Estates as Sources of Genealogical Information

In previous postings (here and here), I’ve told you that the earliest ancestor I’ve been able to prove in my southern County Kilkenny, Ireland, Ryan family is a John Ryan who appears to have been born prior to 1785, and who married Margaret, daughter of John Oates and Eleanor Thompson of Tybroughney/Tibberaghney, a townland in the civil parish of Fiddown in County Kilkenny. As the postings that I’ve just linked tell you, I first catch sight of John and Margaret Oates Ryan in the register of their Catholic parish, Templeorum, when their first child, a son named Valentine, was baptized in that parish on 6 May 1805.

Family of Valentine Ryan and Bridget Tobin of County Kilkenny, Ireland, and Grant County, Arkansas: New Information (3)

Map of County Kilkenny from John Savage, Picturesque Ireland : A Literary and Artistic Delineation of the Natural Scenery, Remarkable Places, etc. (New York: T. Kelly, 1885), highlighting Mullinavat

Or, Subtitled: Interesting Connections Between 19th-Centutry Ryans, Costellos (and Tobins and Walshes) in Buckstown (Killahy Civil Parish, Inchacarran Townland), County Kilkenny, Ireland

In my previous posting, I shared how I have used early 19th-century Catholic parish records (which are often sparse) of baptisms, marriages, and deaths to tease out some new clues regarding possible relatives of my ancestor Bridget Tobin, who married Valentine Ryan, son of John Ryan and Margaret Oates of Templeorum Catholic parish, on 21 September 1836 in Kilmacow Catholic parish. As a map I included in the posting I have just linked shows, Templeorum parish is contiguous to Mullinavat Catholic parish, where Valentine and Bridget Tobin Ryan lived following their marriage. As that posting also states, Mullinavat parish was separated from Kilmacow parish in 1842; the map shows that Mullinavat and Kilmacow are adjoining Catholic parishes. 

“In Memory of Valentine Ryan, Born in Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Feb. 23, 1810, Died Feb. 22, 1881. Erected by his son Patrick Ryan”: Irish Roots of Ryan Family, Grant County, Arkansas (5)

Down Survey Maps, Ryan Family's Location copy
Down Survey Map, 1656-8, southwestern County Kilkenny, showing Tybroughny, Belline, Rogerstown, Piltown

In my previous posting, I told you that I’d follow up by providing a summary of what I think I know of John Ryan and his family apart from what’s to be found in the records of Templeorum Catholic parish in County Kilkenny, Ireland, which document the baptisms of five children born to John and wife Margaret Oates from 1805 to 1815. What we know of John from sources other than the Templeorum records is, in truth, not much at all — not much that’s solidly proven, that is. It’s a set of suppositions that, in my view, are plausible, given what evidence we have about his and his family’s whereabouts from 1805-1815, as captured by the Templeorum baptismal records. Continue reading ““In Memory of Valentine Ryan, Born in Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Feb. 23, 1810, Died Feb. 22, 1881. Erected by his son Patrick Ryan”: Irish Roots of Ryan Family, Grant County, Arkansas (5)”

“In Memory of Valentine Ryan, Born in Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Feb. 23, 1810, Died Feb. 22, 1881. Erected by his son Patrick Ryan”: Irish Roots of Ryan Family, Grant County, Arkansas (4)

Inset of County Kilkenny Map, Lewis' Topographical Dictionary of Ireland
Map for County Kilkenny, Samuel Lewis, Topographical Dictionary of Ireland (London: S. Lewis & Co., 1837) — close-up of southwest County Kilkenny

As my previous posting tells you, though Valentine Ryan and Bridget Tobin married in Mullinavat in 1836, then settled there and raised their family (in the area called Buckstown), Valentine’s roots lie in the Catholic parish immediately adjacent to Kilbeacon parish in Mullinavat on its west side — in the parish of Templeorum and the town of Piltown. Templeorum is in southwestern County Kilkenny in Iverk Barony, bordering on both Counties Tipperary and Waterford. Continue reading ““In Memory of Valentine Ryan, Born in Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Feb. 23, 1810, Died Feb. 22, 1881. Erected by his son Patrick Ryan”: Irish Roots of Ryan Family, Grant County, Arkansas (4)”

“In Memory of Valentine Ryan, Born in Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Feb. 23, 1810, Died Feb. 22, 1881. Erected by his son Patrick Ryan”: Irish Roots of Ryan Family, Grant County, Arkansas (3)

Ryan, Bridget Tobin Tombstone
Tombstone of Bridget Tobin Ryan, Orion Cemetery, Grant County, Arkansas. Inscription reads, “May her soul rest in Pais, Bridget Ryan, Died November 19, 1873, aged 55 years.” In the lower right corner is an inscription saying, “Eracted by V. Ryne,” with the name “J. Gill” carved beneath this.

In my previous two postings in this series, I’ve explained how I eventually found my Ryan ancestors’ roots in County Kilkenny, Ireland, after many years of searching. I now want to tell you what I found, once documents began to open to me after I had determined a specific place of residence for the family and a particular Catholic parish in which the family’s baptisms, marriages, and deaths are recorded. A reminder: a cardinal rule of doing research on Irish families is that you must locate their precise place of residence before records will unlock for you. Continue reading ““In Memory of Valentine Ryan, Born in Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Feb. 23, 1810, Died Feb. 22, 1881. Erected by his son Patrick Ryan”: Irish Roots of Ryan Family, Grant County, Arkansas (3)”